Barbie> Welcome back Vagrants to another dispatch from Xija Station. This week on the podcast, we have a special treat for you. We were lucky enough to speak with Mr. Tim Rozon, who is the man behind Isaac Stelling. We recorded this episode towards the end of season one, so there will be spoilers ahead. We discussed Vagrant Queen of course, but also covered Wynonna Earp, babies and more. We hope you will all enjoy listening as much as we enjoy talking with Tim.
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Barbie> If you're listening to this podcast, you know our guest today as Isaac on Vagrant Queen, you Vagrant Earpers out there will also know him as Doc Holliday on Wynonna Earp, a man of many talents. He is Tim Rozon. Tim, Welcome to the podcast.
Tim> Hi guys. First of all, thanks so much for having me.
Barbie and Christine> Oh, thank you for joining us.
Barbie> So, as we are recording this, there's one episode left that has yet to air in the United States, so no spoilers.
Christine> But we're gonna go ahead and start off the interview on a lighter note here. A question we like to ask all of our guests. This is a podcast about a show in space. So Tim, real or fictional, what's your favorite planet?
Tim> Oh, ah. Zenn-La, probably, Norrin Radd’s home planet. Norrin Radd is the Silver Surfer for any of the people who didn't know who that was. That he made a deal with Galactus, the planet eater, to become the Silver Surfer to save his planet from being devoured by the planet eater. So yep, Probably, probably that planet Silver Surfer. So, Norrin Radd's homeland.
Barbie> Perfect. So now let's get to the hard hitting questions. Your facial hair has become a character on its own, from Massimo in Lost Girl, to Mutt’s beard in Schitt’s Creek, to Doc’s mustache, and a little bit of a different beard for Isaac. How have your grooming habits changed or adapted throughout the years? And do you have a favorite look?
Tim> Ah, yeah, you know, if it's up to me, I'd probably have a buzz cut and be clean shaven or, you know, just like, I'd go a couple of days and then shave and go a couple of days and then shave, just so I didn’t have to shave every day. Yeah, my career seems to be based around facial hair. I can't tell you how many meetings probably in the past five years producers have had about my facial hair. It's kind of ridiculous. It makes me laugh. You know Wynonna Earp and Vagrant Queen they were in contact because of my facial hair and which facial hair when I show up to either set with and in between shooting. Just before Vagrant Queen I booked this Hallmark movie where I was out in Vancouver shooting this Hallmark movie and it's a big deal for a character to have any facial hair on a Hallmark movie. They just, they just don't like it. And it was actually Candace Cameron Bure herself who fought for my character to have facial hair so I could have the beard for Isaac because I needed to start growing that beard during filming the Christmas movie so I can have enough beard for Isaac from the comic book. So they were, they were really cool. And they let me do it. But the big shout out to Candace Cameron Bure for fighting for my beard so much on that show.
Barbie> Well, we definitely appreciate it.
Christine> Absolutely. Now, Tim, you've talked about in past interviews about how you've read Magdalene Vissagio and Jason Smith's Vagrant Queen comic books, sort of a two pronged question along those lines first one: How did reading the books and really just taking in that experience influence how you went about playing Isaac when it came time for you to do the show?
Tim> Yeah, you know, that was my secret weapon. I got the first sides and you need to understand the backstory this was this was a very strange time for me because Wynonna Earp, we had just found out, most likely we had lost our show. You know, six months before that fight even five months before that I was in San Diego, Hall H announcing a pickup for season four and five of Wynonna Earp, so that's where my head was at. And then around February, March, I started hearing we're not coming back, we’re not coming back at all, forget about coming back. We're not coming back at all. It was around that time I was getting pretty depressed and the only thing that kind of undepressed me with the side that came along for Vagrant Queen, Isaac. And I remember really liking him from day one. And I said, Man, if I can't do Doc Holliday anymore, I got to get this Isaac. I got to get this part. This guy's great. I'd never read the book before, I read lots of comic books. I've never read that book. So I did the first audition, and I didn't hear anything. And then I got a call saying they like you, but they like a lot of people. So I was kind of like, okay, okay, so I knew that I wasn't done yet. And that gives me enough kind of like, I was like, I called my comic book shop, because I have my own comic shop in the city that I go to. And I said, add this to my pull. And I said, you got to find this Vagrant Queen from Vault comics. So they ordered it for me. And then I went and read the book before my callback, and it helped. It really did, because I found a human and the characters and the relationship between the two of them because it's in the book if you even read it, like, yeah, you might think she hates him, but she doesn't even, you know, she doesn't really hate him. She there's kind of like a bond there that's, you can't describe the Isaac Elida bond. It's just it's if you watch the show, you start to understand it. And it starts from the comic book. So I think that helped me because I went in a lot more, I don't know what the right word is just I just didn't take Isaac as serious. He's in serious situations. But he didn't take it as serious as he probably should have. And I think that's maybe what helped me. You know, and I was wearing a Mickey Mouse shirt because I was in Florida at the time. And I just said what would a guy from Earth stranded in another galaxy be wearing? Well he’d be repping Mickey Mouse!
Barbie> Of course!
Tim> Yeah.
Christine> No doubt about that. And then you've you talked a bit about the relationship between the characters. Of course Amae got added for the TV show. How do you think the addition of Amae affected the TV version of Isaac as opposed to the comic book?
Tim> Ah, you know, I've read that some stuff, you know, I won't speak on behalf of them actually, but I've read some stuff that they were, they're quite pleased with the addition, you know, of the new character from what they saw, you know? I just, you got to give credit where credit's due and that’s to Jem. Amae’s most likely my favorite character on the show of everyone. You know, Winnibot, myself, Elida included. She's just the heart of the show. I think it all falls apart without Amae’s heart. I don't know if the trio would be as strong, I don't know, if we’d root for them as much. You know, I mean, we're rooting for Elida, though the entire time. And she's, and she goes through a lot, but once Amae comes and just the softness that she brings to the entire situation, and it's, she’s just an incredible character. What a great addition. Jem created her and you know, just, Jem Garrard is just a powerful, amazing woman and what a writer. I told her from day one I said your scripts are some of the best scripts I've ever read. Like that's, you know, I, I've watched the show so you know that it whatever the word is it transforms or transpires or transponders, I don’t know, to television, whatever it is. I'm not the writer in that sense she is. But on paper when I first read those scripts, they're awesome. And you can, you can feel that relationship between the three of them. I love Amae. She’s probably my favorite. Yeah, played brilliantly by Alex McGregor.
Barbie> I don't think you're alone in that. Honestly.
Christine> Oh, certainly not. Yeah.
Tim> I love lots of characters. But yeah, she just stands out.
Barbie> Yeah, for sure.
Christine> Absolutely.
Barbie> Vagrant Queen is your second TV show modeled after a comic book. Obviously you enjoy comics. Do you seek out those roles? Or is it just chance that, that, happenstance?
Tim> You know, it's one of those things where it's just ah, not to be cliche, but I'm living my dream. I'm living my dream. I'm living the dream. So for anyone who thinks you can't, you can, I'm a prime example. I've been doing this for a long time. I remember I was on Schitt’s Creek, great show, and a lot of people know Schitt’s Creek, trust me. It's a fantastic show. And I'm very lucky to be on it. But while I was doing that, I got that audition for Doc Holliday and I remember about a week before the audition came, the words literally came out of my mouth. I remember, I remember vividly, I was having dinner with my wife and I said, you know what I would love. I would love to be on a show based on a comic that goes to Comic Con. I mean, how amazing would that be? A week later, I got the audition for Doc Holliday. I knew in my heart, I could do this part, I have to have it. I knew I had to just have to get it. I had to have it. And then it happened and a year later after saying the words, out of my like, putting it into the universe, I was there at Comic Con, on the show playing a character based from what you know what I mean is incredible. Not only that, I get to write the comic books for IDW, for the show. It's like yeah, whatever happens in life, I'm good. I had a good run. It is awesome. I've lived my dream. I can't complain. And then, you know, cherry on top, Isaac. Vagrant Queen. Based on a comic book. It's just, it's great. I don't actively seek it, but I definitely wanted it and it's definitely my genre and it's definitely it, you know, really makes me happy.
Barbie> That's awesome.
Christine> Absolutely.
Barbie> So I am sure you are already aware of the Earper fandom, since a lot of us followed your move to Vagrant Queen. Can you tell us how the fandom is the same and how it's different between the shows? And were your castmates surprised at the kind of instant fandom that came with it.
Tim> Oh, yeah, I mean, I don't think Alex and, they were not ready. Adriyan and Alex were not ready for what it is to be Earped. Listen. Oh, Wynonna Earp, all that stuff that means so much to me, like being on a comic book and all that. That's one equation but that's my dream. But the greatest gift that I was given in that part has nothing to do with the part and nothing to do with the show. It has to do with the fans. It has to do with the Earpers. Being a part of that fandom, and being an Earper changed my life in more ways than I could have imagined. And I wouldn't trade out, I’d give up all the dreams for the feeling in my heart that, that has been filled by Earpers and meeting Earpers and being in rooms with Earpers or tweeting with Earpers or just Earping. It's, an incredible experience for anyone who does it. And it's given me a lot, and I'm very appreciative of it. So yeah, I had a feeling that some people would jump over, and at the end of the day, I consider myself an Earper. So I feel like I kind of know what we're gonna like. And I knew Vagrant Queen was something you know, I really liked it. So I said, You know, I think there'll be a couple other Earpers who might like this show. But you know, I think at the end of the day, Vagrant Queen has its own Vagrants, its own fandom, its own fans, there is a lot of Earpers who came over. I wish more people were watching. You know, I don't think enough people are watching the show because I think they're missing out on a really, really, really great show.
Barbie> I completely agree.
Christine> Absolutely. It's a phenomenal show, to say the least.
Tim> Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I agree. I'm a fan. You know, there's only so many shows that I've been on that I could say on a real real fan of the show, you know, I've done lots. I'm lucky but you know, I don't watch that much TV. So, you know, and lately it's been, I’ve been on a great run of shows that I would actually watch myself, you know, Schitt’s Creek, and Vagrant Queen, Wynonna Earp, Lost Girl. I would watch all these shows, these would be you know, this is my wheelhouse of things I’d watch. So more people need to watch Vagrant Queen. Yeah.
Christine> And certainly we do want to touch on that. But I also want to touch on more on Isaac as a character. Certainly we get to see a lot of Isaac's lighter side throughout the season as we've touched on here, but Episode Five in particular, we get to dig deep into Isaac as a character, whether it's in us seeing, for lack of a better term, his origin story, or seeing him sell out information to Lazaro, what was it like for you to delve into that darker part, if you will, of Isaac as a character?
Tim> Yeah. First of all, thank you so much. That's a great question. And it means a lot that you asked it because it shows you really you guys are fans of the show, I can tell without a doubt. And I appreciate that. I really love that. Yeah, that was, that was the episode. You know, that was the last episode we filmed. And I think I was the last person there to be honest, because of facial hair. You know, Jem wanted Isaac to have no beard. It was like, she fought hard against the network and the network is SyFy and I'm on SyFy for Wynonna Earp. So there was conversations, but is he gonna have enough time to grow the mustache? And I was telling them, guys, the one thing I can do is grow a mustache. Give me, I just need this amount of days and I can do it. They said, No, it's not enough time. I said, It's enough time. So I told Jem don't worry, we'll shave. But the cool thing is, is that I get a little attached to these characters. I'm a good guy, I guess. And I play these characters. You know, Doc Holliday and Isaac. They're good guys at heart, but they do bad things. You know, they just do stupid things, to be honest, you know? And, and I feel bad when my characters do bad things, you know, so it's hard for me. So I knew throughout the season that I had betrayed Elida and it bugged me as a person, as myself, it bugged me that a character would do that, you know, so I had to play the entire season. So when we came back to my backstory, that's my backstory was my reasoning for why I would betray her. You know, that's the only acceptable reason was why. So when I was living it, I was, it really, it had to have stakes. It had to mean something to him. He had to have, you have to believe that he would turn his back on this person that is his best friend, more than his best friend because Elida and Isaac, they're just, he needs her so much, you know. And so the stakes had to be really, really real for me. And you know, he, his wife and his kid were left behind and he just wanted to get home and that's what I told myself, you need to, you would do anything to go home and you love your wife more than anything. This has to mean so much. So then that was it screaming and losing your mind, on a spaceship. Just you know, there's a. It was great. And it was, it was sad because it was the last day of filming. And in that time, you know, I knew I was going home and about to have my kid. You know, I found out we were having a baby two weeks before I left for Africa.
Barbie> Oh wow.
Tim> Yeah.
Christine> Wow.
Tim> Yeah, you know, come home and you know, I don't have much time before baby came.
Barbie> Gotta get that crib together.
Tim> Yeah, you know, I'm playing a character that hasn't seen this kid back home. You know, I remember there was another moment where Amae and Isaac, one of my favorite scenes in the season, in the woods where they kind of have their heart to heart. And she tells him about her feelings for Elida the first time and before that he kind of tells her about you know, he doesn't, he doesn't even know how old his kid is. If it's a boy, if it's a girl. What's it like? That's where I was myself. You know, I had a pregnant wife back home. I didn't even know if we were having a boy or a girl and it was, so it all meant a lot. Those scenes, all those scenes, they meant more I think because of what I was going through.
Barbie> Yeah, definitely.
Chistine> Absolutely. Kind of in that same vein, how do you think Isaac has developed as a person and then a member of the Winnipeg team throughout the season?
Tim> Yeah, well, I mean, Isaac 2.0. But I, you know, I think that if he realized that his family is his wife and his kid, but at the end of the day, he might never see them again. And I think he really values the new family he has and I don't think he ever until Amae came into the picture, realized that Elida was his family. You know, and I think once he did that, and he betrayed her and he let her down again, you know, for real, like shooting wasn't enough, but I mean, I think when he realized how badly he let her down, he realized how badly he let himself down and he would never do it again, ever. And I think he realized that's when that's his family and you can you can see about Isaac how much his family means to him you know, and so and that’s his new family, so I think I think once he turns the page, you know, there's one episode left. I don't think we're gonna see a second Isaac betrayal. But you know, who knows, I don't, I think he’s never going to take for granted what he once found.
Christine> It goes to show how far he's come in this one season so far. Hopefully there's more to come of course.
Tim> Yeah.
Christine> Now we do want to talk more about this particular season. The team with the Winnipeg’s been on a wide range of adventures. So, out of all the episodes, at least the ones we've seen so far, what would you say was your favorite episode to film out of all those and what made it a favorite episode for you?
Tim> I mean, there's just, there's so many. There’s pieces, you know, how can anything ever compete with the first day of filming? You know, it's tough. Was episode one my favorite episode? No, you know, it wasn't my least favorite. I'm not saying that either. I'm saying but the first day we step on the Winnipeg, the South African crews were amazing. I mean, every department of that crew from the prosthetic makeup, to just you know, catering in the morning, to the set designers, they built Winni. Winni was functional. The buttons that Alex and us are pressing, they do stuff! You could break stuff in there. We did! You know. I just remember that first day filming in a spaceship dressed as, you know, as cool as Isaac, dressed with a gun blaster strapped to your leg and frickin you're out in the spaceship. And they've got these giant green screens behind you. And they've just, they've got space. It puts space on the green screen. So when we're looking out of the cockpit, you can't see anything except space. And they built that for us. The viewer doesn't even see it, they did it just for us as we're acting so you're in a spaceship, functioning spaceship, playing a space dude, with your frickin alien buddies, the robot, Winni, moves, you know, and it's being remote controlled from someone in another part of the spaceship so you know, it's not like you see them in wires, the robot’s moving around. And it's pretty hard not to appreciate all the hard work and amazing to just get lost in the feeling that this is, you know, this is amazing. My favorite episode was eight. I think the Clue episode was just, it was just super fun. We've been, we've gone through a lot of serious stuff, especially Elida and Isaac and Amae’s got a history too. And you know Lazaro’s past. Every character’s got their backstory, and it ain't easy on anybody. And then all of a sudden we have this, not that there isn’t murder mayhem throughout eight, but it's still kind of real fun. And it was just fun. And I think we were just, everyone understood their characters at that point. We were just riffing off each other. I had, we had all seen Clue, I loved Clue. Jem did an incredible job with the homage to Clue, you could tell she's a super fan of that movie. The other actors just killed it. It was great to have a lot of those people back that we had worked with before, you know, because, you know, Leon Clingman, he came back again. He was Dengar, and then he came back for that. And Officer Rykal came back and played another character, she also plays Winnibot. Robyn Scott, she's incredible. She played three characters on that show, three incredible characters, three memorable characters.
Barbie> Iconic.
Tim> Iconic. Yeah, so it was a blast. I mean, I just remember from day one we had fun. I almost sliced my finger off. Well, I mean I did. I sliced a big chunk of it off in the hot dog shortest straw hot dog, Wiener schnitzel, skedaddle…
Barbie> Frankenfurter.
Tim> Frankenfurter, thank you for the technical term. Yeah, you know, I cut my finger off. I was bleeding everywhere I hit it finished the scene waited for cut and then I was like, I need a medic. Jem tasered herself, for real.
Christine> Oh gosh.
Tim> She was playing with the taser that, you know we go through all the weapons. And one of them is, you pull it, It's a taser it was a real taser and Jem was playing with it for a couple of days she had a taser as she's talking and directing, Zzt Zzt. Hey, you know zzt zzt, then everybody I remember everyone saying you gotta be careful with that thing, you know. Yeah, no problem. And she zapped herself. That was crazy.
Barbie> We heard we heard that Leon broke a couple of ribs.
Tim> Yep. I mean, listen, if people are breaking ribs, cutting off fingers, and tasering themselves, it's a good episode.
Barbie> Of course.
Christine> Oh, no doubt about that.
Tim> Yeah. So yeah, eight. Really, really. And then I think it was six. Like I said before the sunshine express, the train one when we're -
Barbie> 7, yeah.
Tim> Where Amae and Isaac go on their own little journey and they have that heart to heart in the woods. I remember telling Alex after I said that, that's it. That's, that's it. You just do the vulnerability you showed in the woods and I'm acting with you. So I'm trying to stay in character but as another, as a human being and I was like, you killed it. Like, I just remember saying if these two don't end up together, I hate the show. Especially in that moment too, because I'm like, Man, you feel it, you know, like, I just this is just magic. Yeah, and another reason I felt like we need Amae is because Elida ain't gonna make the move.
Barbie> No.
Christine> Oh, definitely not.
Tim> Exactly. So it's like, you need Amae for that and it's a great love story and I think they both played it incredible and that sewer kiss is magical.
Barbie> It's perfect.
Tim> It was well worth it.
Christine> Yeah, couldn't have asked for better than that.
Tim> Yeah, so it was seven, seven and eight. They were probably my favorites and five just because I was saying goodbye to everybody, it was crazy. And I was by myself. Everyone else was gone. It was just Jem and I, in a spaceship. And it was really fun, it was special.
Christine> So we've talked about what makes what's made it a great experience. Would you like to talk a bit more about what's made being part of Vagrant Queen a unique experience for you?
Tim> It’s going to be that, just South Africa and Cape Town, and the people that I've met there and the relationships I've met, you know, I'm still friends with so many parts and people on that crew. It's crazy. The unique thing was just the parallel to my own life playing a character who had a baby that he knew nothing about, and that's what I was, as a new father-to-be. It is crazy. And you know, the boom guy was having a baby, the makeup girl she left two weeks before we wrapped to have her kid. The other makeup girl had a baby a month after I did. So, you know, that's three people in the makeup trailer all having kids around a month apart is pretty crazy. So it made for a more unique experience than ever because it was really weird. Her name is Samantha, the makeup artist. She was amazing. And she was probably eight months pregnant at the end. And she was around the same, pretty close to my wife back home. My wife was about seven. And I could that those days, I think she could tell when I was a little lonely in South Africa and she’d just come over and she grabbed my hand and she put it on her belly when he was moving. And I was like, you know, I got to have that feeling of feeling a little kid and I'm like, the best things.
Barbie> There's definitely nothing like it. I have been on both sides of that.
Tim> Yeah. So it made for a truly unique experience. And just you know, being in Africa is next level, South Africa is beautiful. The crews and people are amazing.
Barbie> Speaking of unique experience, it's now officially pride month and we have to mention that you've been a part of several shows with strong LGBTQ representation. How is that different from when, like you grew up watching TV, and how does it feel to be a part of that such positive representation?
Tim> Yeah, you know, it feels incredible. And just like I said, I learned so much from the Earpers and being a part of that community. Myself, I mean, you know, I don't know how to say this another way, I grew up pretty curious. So I didn't have any aversions to the LGBT community. You know, it was never something I really thought about that way. But yeah, since Lost Girl, I've been a part of that community and it's, what can I say? Love is love. And if it comes from place of beauty and you know, that's it. Love man. I feel honored to be a part of that community. It's one of the best in the world.
Barbie> Well, we appreciate you.
Christine> We absolutely do.
Barbie> Being an ally.
Tim> Aw, Thank you.
Christine> So another thing I wanted to come back to the filming aspect of things for just a minute here, because another thing certainly that we've seen that makes the show unique is what’s been called in the fandom the mannequin challenges. Because Isaac, of course features in many of those. Now your co-star, Adriyan has talked a bit about the process that when shooting these, what was the experience like for you in filming those?
Tim> Yeah, pretty awesome. I remember. You know, the first one, I just didn't understand what we're doing. It was hard to to, for her to explain. You know, what we're doing. But she had filmed something like that, and then she kind of showed us a clip of the idea of what it is. I remember Adriyan, God bless her. She said, before doing this Mannequin challenge we had, I'll never forget, she had a gun, like a blaster in her hand, you know, stuck. And she's saying, Jem, can I get two guns, two blasters? And Jem said, Yeah, you want two guns? She said “yeah, yeah, just give me two guns, I think it’d look cooler if I've got two guns in my hand.” So it only became funny, because I was at the back of the mannequin challenge, of that one. Or you know what I mean? And so you're watching it, and we had to do multiple takes. You can't move or breathe. That's the thing. You can't blink. If you blink, it's over. So you learn two things. Number one, you don't want to be at the back. And number two, you don't want to be holding things. Because those things, if they shake or move, you’ve got to restart. Or if you're holding things and you can't do without them shaking or moving, they need to be propped up with even more metal bars and green screens and all kinds of stuff. So I just remember saying, Man, I remember laughing, saying well we messed that up. You asked for two guns. And I asked for the back, the two hardest things of all. So then by the end of it, you're just like, yeah, yeah, a mannequin challenge. Got it. So you're trying to get rid of props and you're trying to, you know, but it was like I said it was incredible. And the way they set it up for us was awesome. They had these green boxes with pillows, and you were in these weird positions that you could hold like, you know, poles and sticks and it was awesome and then when you see it, it's well worth it. I mean, the Lazaro, last supper, I mean, I don't know what to call that one where everybody is just stabbing each other in the face and going crazy, you know, Vagrant Queen blew my mind twice. They're both Lazaro moments. And it was during that scene and then I think was last week's when you just, he did something and everybody's eyes turned green and he started, people started stabbing themselves in the face. I was not ready for both those times. I was like what is this madness. It was just absolute insanity. Yeah.
Christine> And I think we were right there with you and when it comes to that feeling,
Tim> Yeah. I just was not prepared for how insanely violent and crazy those moments were.
Barbie> Do you have a favorite mannequin challenge?
Tim> Well, that one the last supper, which I wasn't a part of, but as a fan watching, that was the one that I really loved. You know, the Clue one was super fun because we were all in it. We're all these crazy, these crazy moments. I was at the end of that one, but at that point, me and Dengar- Leon, where we were, you know, we had each other in some headlock type of moves, so we could kind of use each other as weight to kind of hold each other up, you know. Alex was in front of me hanging from the screen, these giant ropes and things and I could see Adriyan in front of her with this sick move. So it was like it was kind of like the one where I got to see everything happened to in one move. Yeah, they're super fun to be a part of and, and big credit to our cameraman Chris, who always nailed those. He does it all on this amazing camera that's kind of on his body and puts it real low. And he goes,
Barbie> Like a steady cam?
Tim> Yeah, a steady cam, but he wears it upside down on the rig in this weird way that other people would never think of doing. He does and then he goes through and it's incredible.
Christine> A talented cast and crew if ever there was one.
Tim> Yeah, and guys again, it's all Jem. That's that's you know, you gotta give credit where credit's due and that Jem Garrard, man. She's, that woman's awesome.
Christine> Hashtag #WowJem certainly isn't a hashtag for nothing.
Tim> Yep, yeah.
Christine> Now of course the end of the season is right around the corner where we've got one more episode that's airing this week as of the time we're recording this. So Vagrants have been fighting for the show for a while with the hashtag #RenewVagrantQueen. So I guess the question there is, what message do you have for the Vagrants out there who are fighting so hard for this wonderful show?
Tim> Well, you know, thank you so much. I mean, I'm with you. All I want is Season Two, how do I not want to go do this again? How do we not want to keep telling this story? I just, I don't know how to get more people to watch a show. I, you know. I wish more people would watch it. Because they’d love it. It's a great show.
Barbie> Just show everybody the Clue episode, that's all
Tim> Yeah.
Christine> Yeah there you go.
Tim> Yeah, look, to be honest, ratings wise and stuff. I don't know that stuff. I never look into that. I never check that. I never know by numbers I know by me. I watch shows. I like it. I love it. It's a good show. It should keep going. What do I know? People are fighting? I love you forever. Thank you so much. You know, being a part of that last year with the Earpers was incredible. New York City putting up those billboards and that feeling. I mean, I drove to New York City.
Barbie> Yeah, with Michael.
Tim> I had to. Yeah. How can I not? How can I not go fight the fight back for these people fighting for you? And of course, I bought a billboard. And of course, I went to meet people in Times Square. How could I not? These people are amazing. So the same thing. Yeah, I got a lot of things going on in my life. But if Season Two comes, I'm going, I'll go. Of course I'm on. You know, people fight for me, I'll fight for them. I'm all in. I just want to keep playing this character. Yeah, I hope I hope it comes back.
Barbie> We do, too. If we do get a season two, what do you want to see?
Tim> You know, I'm one of those people, you don't want my answer, because it's boring TV. I want an Amida wedding.
[All laugh]
Christine> Don't we all?
Tim> You know, I want them to be in love and happy, lots of kisses. And you know, I'll be that. That's happiness. But of course, I don't know if that's great TV, you have to make one of them mind controlled, Cyborg, and not be together when they're supposed to be together and then you know, something else will happen.
Barbie> I mean, the slow burn was pretty agonizing.
Tim> Yeah!
Barbie> But it pays off. It pays off in the end.
Tim> That's the thing. It really does, it pays off. But to be honest, I was such a fan of all the scripts and getting each one, that there's nothing that I could, I wouldn't trust Jem with because you know, she's going to give you gold probably better than anything I could think of. The one thing I did try to pitch her I said, Hey, if I can ever have a heart to heart with the Winnipeg, I think it'd be Issac- I think it'd be awesome if Isaac just has a real heart to heart with Winnipeg and he gets some stuff out and, and, you know, when it’s over, she realizes, you know, she says, were you talking? I was recharging.
[Barbie and Christine laugh]
Barbie> I mean, you kind of had that moment with Winnibee with the hug
Tim> Yeah. Oh, that's true. Which I added, it was the one time I went off script guys.
Barbie> Oh, really?
Tim> Yeah, it was the hug.
Barbie> It was perfect!
Tim> Yeah, thanks. Yeah. Yeah.
Christine> And then, on a lighter note, you've talked a bit about the experience of becoming a father. You were talking about the experience of being in South Africa and all. Can you talk a bit more? Several of our listeners wanted us to ask how the experience of being a father is going for you.
Tim> Well, I mean, I don't know how everyone else is dealing with a pandemic and the corona and COVID-19. For anybody listening to this later date. We're just, we're still, still in the midst of that. So, it's been great for me, you know, kind of self quarantining at home and not leaving home when you have a brand new baby. It's kind of awesome because he keeps me super busy. He's a really good guy. He's just a good little, he's happy and he just wants me and he sleeps good. So I can't complain. You know, I'm still sleeping another night. I just got a little fat guy wants to play and eat. So he keeps me super busy and he keeps me positive and happy every day because, you know, it's not. If I read the news all day long. I’d think the world's coming to an end. But when I don't turn on the news, and I just concentrate on what I have in front of me. I have a beautiful little innocent baby and he's just happy. He sees me and he smiles and I die when he smiles, it's the greatest feeling. I can't explain it. There's no other feeling than when, you know, a child looks at you and smiles.
Barbie> Yeah, definitely. You said he was born in December, so he's about six or so months old. I think that is starting to get to a fun age. I'm not a huge fan of infants. But yeah, once they kind of hit the I'm gonna start rolling and cooing and smiling. I think that's really fun.
Tim> He's rolling and he's cooing. I don't have, I never had an infant. He's in the 99th percentile of size. So he's 25 pounds right now. And he weighs, he wears the 18 month clothing. So everything we bought for him doesn't fit, his car seat. We had to get a new one. The stroller, everything I have to just redo. Luckily lots of people had babies around me so I traded it and just gave them that stuff. But yeah, it's I feel like I have a toddler I feel like I missed out on the baby part because he's always been so massive.
Barbie> My niece is the same way, and then here I am, my 5 year old is 34 pounds.
Tim> Yeah, it’s like I said, I have other friends and I meet the baby and I’m like “How old?” and in my brain I’m thinking, must be like 3 weeks, they’re like 7 months, I’m like ahh shit.
[Laughing]
Tim> I have a monster at home.
Barbie> So do you have any final thoughts? Anything you’d like to add?
Tim> Oh, just, you know, thank you. Thank you to every single person that watched the show. Thank you so much. Thank you to Jem Garrard, and Josh from Syfy and Blue Ice for trusting me, and Magdalene Vissagio and Jason Smith for creating the character, and the producers who hired me and trusted me, and thank you to Adriyan and Alex for giving so much, and Paul for me to act with, and uh, for the crew for being so awesome and making me look so frickin cool from the outfits to the props to the stunt guys to everybody else because it’s a giant team effort and it’s not me doing anything alone, trust me, there’s a lot of people working hard to make it look awesome, just thank you. I mean, I’m very thankful. It’s nothing I take for granted, or lightly, to be trusted with a part on an amazing TV show, I’ll tell you that much. It means a lot, so thank you.
Barbie> Well, just for my own curiosity, I have to ask, is Josh’s last name “From Syfy”?
[All laugh]
Tim> For all intents and purposes, let’s just say yes. Also, ‘cause it bugs him, so it’s great. He is Josh From Syfy.
Barbie> So, where can we find you on social media?
Tim> I am the, @realtimrozon on Instagram and Twitter, and that’s it.
Barbie> All right.
Christine> All right, Tim, thank you so much for taking some time to discuss Vagrant Queen with us. We’re looking forward to hearing news of a season two renewal, fingers crossed.
Tim> Guys, thank you so much for having me.
Barbie> And thank you to our listeners for joining us. Until next time, this has been a transmission from another galaxy … not yours.
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